雷納稱(chēng)，移民和貧困導(dǎo)致英國(guó)公眾對(duì)政客們失去信心
Immigration and deprivation causing UK public to lose faith in politicians, says Rayner
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Immigration and deprivation causing UK public to lose faith in politicians, says Rayner
-Deputy PM says government must show it is helping people amid concerns about potential for more riots in England
雷納稱(chēng)，移民和貧困導(dǎo)致英國(guó)公眾對(duì)政客們失去信心
——副首相表示，政府必須表明它正在幫助人們，因?yàn)槿藗儞?dān)心英格蘭可能會(huì)發(fā)生更多騷亂
(An asylum hotel in Epping, Essex, has been the target of a series of protests in recent days.)
（最近幾天，埃塞克斯郡埃平的一家庇護(hù)旅館成為一系列抗議活動(dòng)的目標(biāo)。）
新聞：
Immigration and deprivation are among the main factors causing public disenchantment with politicians and the government which has led to social unrest and rioting, Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, has warned.
副首相安吉拉·雷納警告稱(chēng)，移民和貧困是導(dǎo)致公眾對(duì)政客和政府失望的主要因素之一，這導(dǎo)致了社會(huì)動(dòng)蕩和騷亂。
According to an official summary of Tuesday’s meeting of the cabinet, Rayner, who is leading a wider government project on improving social cohesion, also highlighted the increasing amount of time people are spending alone and online as a reason for the disturbances.
根據(jù)周二內(nèi)閣會(huì)議的官方摘要，雷納還強(qiáng)調(diào)，人們花在獨(dú)處和上網(wǎng)上的時(shí)間越來(lái)越多，這是造成騷亂的一個(gè)原因。雷納正在領(lǐng)導(dǎo)一個(gè)更廣泛的政府項(xiàng)目，以提高社會(huì)凝聚力。
Asked if Rayner saw increased migration as a particular reason for both the riots across England last summer, and recent disturbances at hotels housing asylum seekers, Downing Street said it was among “concerns that people have about whether government is acting on their behalf and acting in their interests”.
當(dāng)被問(wèn)及雷納是否認(rèn)為移民增加是去年夏天英格蘭騷亂和最近庇護(hù)尋求者旅館騷亂的一個(gè)特殊原因時(shí)，唐寧街表示，這是“人們對(duì)政府是否代表他們行事、是否為他們的利益行事的擔(dān)憂之一”。
Ministers are concerned there could be a renewed wave of migration and race-based disturbances, as the anniversary approaches of the murder of three children at a dance class in Southport that led to riots last summer, with many encouraged by false far-right claims about the attack.
大臣們擔(dān)心，隨著去年夏天南港三名兒童在舞蹈課上被謀殺（這起事件導(dǎo)致了騷亂，許多人受到了極右翼分子對(duì)這次襲擊的虛假說(shuō)法的煽動(dòng)）一周年的臨近，可能會(huì)出現(xiàn)新一輪的移民潮和基于種族的騷亂。
Rayner told ministerial colleagues that “economic insecurity, the rapid pace of de-industrialisation, immigration and the impacts on local communities and public services, technological change and the amount of time people were spending alone online, and declining trust in institutions was having a profound impact on society”, according to a No 10 readout of the cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning.
根據(jù)英國(guó)政府周二上午對(duì)內(nèi)閣會(huì)議的宣讀，雷納對(duì)大臣們表示，“經(jīng)濟(jì)不安全、快速去工業(yè)化、移民及其對(duì)當(dāng)?shù)厣鐓^(qū)和公共服務(wù)的影響、科技變革和人們獨(dú)自上網(wǎng)的時(shí)間，以及對(duì)機(jī)構(gòu)信任度的下降，正在對(duì)社會(huì)產(chǎn)生深遠(yuǎn)影響”。
Emphasising the role of deprivation and poverty, Rayner said 17 of the 18 places around England that had the worst trouble last summer were among the country’s most deprived areas.
雷納強(qiáng)調(diào)了匱乏和貧困的作用，他說(shuō)，去年夏天英格蘭18個(gè)騷亂問(wèn)題最嚴(yán)重的地區(qū)中，有17個(gè)是該國(guó)最貧困的地區(qū)。
“While Britain was a successful multi-ethnic, multi-faith country, the government had to show it had a plan to address people’s concerns and provide opportunities for everyone to flourish,” Rayner added.
雷納稱(chēng)：“雖然英國(guó)是一個(gè)成功的多民族、多信仰的國(guó)家，但政府必須表明，它有一個(gè)解決人們關(guān)切的計(jì)劃，并為每個(gè)人提供發(fā)展的機(jī)會(huì)。”
Asked about the role of immigration, Keir Starmer’s official spokesperson said “high levels of immigration over the last 10 years, including illegal immigration” was among a series of factors, including the cost of living and the pace of technological change that “have had an impact on our social fabric and social cohesion”.
當(dāng)被問(wèn)及移民的作用時(shí)，斯塔默的官方發(fā)言人表示，“過(guò)去10年的高水平移民，包括非法移民”是一系列因素之一，包括生活成本和科技變革的步伐，“對(duì)我們的社會(huì)結(jié)構(gòu)和社會(huì)凝聚力產(chǎn)生了影響”。
Questioned about Rayner’s comments on people spending more time online and alone, the spokesperson said adults now averaged four hours of online time a day, “and that has changed the way in which people interact with other people”.
當(dāng)被問(wèn)及雷納關(guān)于人們花更多時(shí)間上網(wǎng)和獨(dú)處的評(píng)論時(shí)，這位發(fā)言人說(shuō)，成年人現(xiàn)在平均每天上網(wǎng)時(shí)間為4小時(shí)，“這改變了人們與其他人互動(dòng)的方式”。
Rayner’s project on social cohesion is aimed at the longer term, with no date set for it to present any conclusions. Officially known as the plan for neighbourhoods, it is intended to invest ￡1.5bn in 75 areas over the next decade.
雷納關(guān)于社會(huì)凝聚力的項(xiàng)目著眼于更長(zhǎng)遠(yuǎn)的發(fā)展，并沒(méi)有確定提出任何結(jié)論的日期。該計(jì)劃的官方名稱(chēng)為“社區(qū)計(jì)劃”，計(jì)劃在未來(lái)10年向75個(gè)地區(qū)投資15億英鎊。
However, ministers are also mindful of the more immediate worry of a repeat of last summer’s disorder, after which there were more than 1,800 arrests and nearly 1,100 charges, with hundreds of people jailed.
然而，大臣們也注意到更緊迫的擔(dān)憂，即去年夏天的騷亂（在那之后，有1800多人被捕，近1100人被指控，數(shù)百人被判入獄）會(huì)重演。
One potential flashpoint could be an asylum hotel in Epping, Essex, which has been the target for a series of protests in recent days, and where police were attacked.
一個(gè)潛在的引爆點(diǎn)可能是埃塞克斯郡埃平的一家庇護(hù)旅館。最近幾天，這家旅館一直是一系列抗議活動(dòng)的目標(biāo)，警方也在那里遭到襲擊。
The far-right agitator known as Tommy Robinson has promised on social media to bring “thousands” of people to join a mass protest at the hotel on Sunday. Similar demonstrations have taken place at a hotel in Diss, Norfolk.
極右翼煽動(dòng)者湯米·羅賓遜在社交媒體上承諾，將帶領(lǐng)“數(shù)千人”參加周日在酒店舉行的大規(guī)模抗議活動(dòng)。在諾?？丝さ纤沟囊患揖频暌舶l(fā)生了類(lèi)似的示威活動(dòng)。
There are procedures for the prime minister to be kept informed even when he is away. Starmer cancelled his summer holiday last year because of the rioting. Officials have refused to comment on any contingency plans in place this year, saying they could not “get into speculation”.
有一些程序可以讓首相即使不在也能隨時(shí)了解情況。由于騷亂，斯塔默去年取消了他的暑假。官員們拒絕對(duì)今年實(shí)施的任何應(yīng)急計(jì)劃發(fā)表評(píng)論，稱(chēng)他們不能“進(jìn)行猜測(cè)”。
There is an additional political impetus for ministers to take seriously the possibility of wider disorder given the likelihood it would be exploited by Nigel Farage, who used a speech about crime on Monday to say much of the UK was experiencing “nothing short of societal collapse”.
鑒于奈杰爾·法拉奇可能利用這一可能性，大臣們認(rèn)真對(duì)待更大范圍騷亂的可能性，這是一個(gè)額外的政治動(dòng)力。法拉奇周一在一次關(guān)于犯罪的演講中表示，英國(guó)大部分地區(qū)正在經(jīng)歷“社會(huì)崩潰”。
He told an event: “I don’t think anybody in London can understand just how close we are to civil disobedience on a vast scale in this country.”
他在一次活動(dòng)中說(shuō)：“我認(rèn)為倫敦沒(méi)有人能理解我們離這個(gè)國(guó)家大規(guī)模的公民不服從有多近?！?br />
Government officials insisted, however, that the cabinet discussion was not a response to the Reform UK leader, pointing to previous comments about the many social drivers of dissatisfaction that were made by Starmer after last year’s disorder.
然而，政府官員堅(jiān)稱(chēng)，內(nèi)閣討論不是對(duì)這位英國(guó)改革黨領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人的回應(yīng)，他們指出，在去年騷亂發(fā)生后，斯塔默曾發(fā)表評(píng)論，指出許多社會(huì)因素導(dǎo)致了不滿(mǎn)。
“The broad point is that we have to invest in our social fabric,” one said. “People have felt for years that governments have not delivered for them. We need to deliver change they can feel.”
其中一人表示：“總體而言，我們必須投資于我們的社會(huì)結(jié)構(gòu)。多年來(lái)，人們一直感到政府沒(méi)有為他們提供服務(wù)。我們需要提供他們能感受到的改變?！?br />
Among initiatives launched after the summer riots was a cross-party commission intended to examine and ease community divisions. The Independent Commission on Community and Cohesion met for the first time in June.
在夏季騷亂后發(fā)起的倡議中，有一個(gè)跨黨派委員會(huì)成立，旨在調(diào)查和緩解社區(qū)分歧。社區(qū)與凝聚力獨(dú)立委員會(huì)于6月舉行了首次會(huì)議。
-Deputy PM says government must show it is helping people amid concerns about potential for more riots in England
雷納稱(chēng)，移民和貧困導(dǎo)致英國(guó)公眾對(duì)政客們失去信心
——副首相表示，政府必須表明它正在幫助人們，因?yàn)槿藗儞?dān)心英格蘭可能會(huì)發(fā)生更多騷亂
(An asylum hotel in Epping, Essex, has been the target of a series of protests in recent days.)
（最近幾天，埃塞克斯郡埃平的一家庇護(hù)旅館成為一系列抗議活動(dòng)的目標(biāo)。）
新聞：
Immigration and deprivation are among the main factors causing public disenchantment with politicians and the government which has led to social unrest and rioting, Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, has warned.
副首相安吉拉·雷納警告稱(chēng)，移民和貧困是導(dǎo)致公眾對(duì)政客和政府失望的主要因素之一，這導(dǎo)致了社會(huì)動(dòng)蕩和騷亂。
According to an official summary of Tuesday’s meeting of the cabinet, Rayner, who is leading a wider government project on improving social cohesion, also highlighted the increasing amount of time people are spending alone and online as a reason for the disturbances.
根據(jù)周二內(nèi)閣會(huì)議的官方摘要，雷納還強(qiáng)調(diào)，人們花在獨(dú)處和上網(wǎng)上的時(shí)間越來(lái)越多，這是造成騷亂的一個(gè)原因。雷納正在領(lǐng)導(dǎo)一個(gè)更廣泛的政府項(xiàng)目，以提高社會(huì)凝聚力。
Asked if Rayner saw increased migration as a particular reason for both the riots across England last summer, and recent disturbances at hotels housing asylum seekers, Downing Street said it was among “concerns that people have about whether government is acting on their behalf and acting in their interests”.
當(dāng)被問(wèn)及雷納是否認(rèn)為移民增加是去年夏天英格蘭騷亂和最近庇護(hù)尋求者旅館騷亂的一個(gè)特殊原因時(shí)，唐寧街表示，這是“人們對(duì)政府是否代表他們行事、是否為他們的利益行事的擔(dān)憂之一”。
Ministers are concerned there could be a renewed wave of migration and race-based disturbances, as the anniversary approaches of the murder of three children at a dance class in Southport that led to riots last summer, with many encouraged by false far-right claims about the attack.
大臣們擔(dān)心，隨著去年夏天南港三名兒童在舞蹈課上被謀殺（這起事件導(dǎo)致了騷亂，許多人受到了極右翼分子對(duì)這次襲擊的虛假說(shuō)法的煽動(dòng)）一周年的臨近，可能會(huì)出現(xiàn)新一輪的移民潮和基于種族的騷亂。
Rayner told ministerial colleagues that “economic insecurity, the rapid pace of de-industrialisation, immigration and the impacts on local communities and public services, technological change and the amount of time people were spending alone online, and declining trust in institutions was having a profound impact on society”, according to a No 10 readout of the cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning.
根據(jù)英國(guó)政府周二上午對(duì)內(nèi)閣會(huì)議的宣讀，雷納對(duì)大臣們表示，“經(jīng)濟(jì)不安全、快速去工業(yè)化、移民及其對(duì)當(dāng)?shù)厣鐓^(qū)和公共服務(wù)的影響、科技變革和人們獨(dú)自上網(wǎng)的時(shí)間，以及對(duì)機(jī)構(gòu)信任度的下降，正在對(duì)社會(huì)產(chǎn)生深遠(yuǎn)影響”。
Emphasising the role of deprivation and poverty, Rayner said 17 of the 18 places around England that had the worst trouble last summer were among the country’s most deprived areas.
雷納強(qiáng)調(diào)了匱乏和貧困的作用，他說(shuō)，去年夏天英格蘭18個(gè)騷亂問(wèn)題最嚴(yán)重的地區(qū)中，有17個(gè)是該國(guó)最貧困的地區(qū)。
“While Britain was a successful multi-ethnic, multi-faith country, the government had to show it had a plan to address people’s concerns and provide opportunities for everyone to flourish,” Rayner added.
雷納稱(chēng)：“雖然英國(guó)是一個(gè)成功的多民族、多信仰的國(guó)家，但政府必須表明，它有一個(gè)解決人們關(guān)切的計(jì)劃，并為每個(gè)人提供發(fā)展的機(jī)會(huì)。”
Asked about the role of immigration, Keir Starmer’s official spokesperson said “high levels of immigration over the last 10 years, including illegal immigration” was among a series of factors, including the cost of living and the pace of technological change that “have had an impact on our social fabric and social cohesion”.
當(dāng)被問(wèn)及移民的作用時(shí)，斯塔默的官方發(fā)言人表示，“過(guò)去10年的高水平移民，包括非法移民”是一系列因素之一，包括生活成本和科技變革的步伐，“對(duì)我們的社會(huì)結(jié)構(gòu)和社會(huì)凝聚力產(chǎn)生了影響”。
Questioned about Rayner’s comments on people spending more time online and alone, the spokesperson said adults now averaged four hours of online time a day, “and that has changed the way in which people interact with other people”.
當(dāng)被問(wèn)及雷納關(guān)于人們花更多時(shí)間上網(wǎng)和獨(dú)處的評(píng)論時(shí)，這位發(fā)言人說(shuō)，成年人現(xiàn)在平均每天上網(wǎng)時(shí)間為4小時(shí)，“這改變了人們與其他人互動(dòng)的方式”。
Rayner’s project on social cohesion is aimed at the longer term, with no date set for it to present any conclusions. Officially known as the plan for neighbourhoods, it is intended to invest ￡1.5bn in 75 areas over the next decade.
雷納關(guān)于社會(huì)凝聚力的項(xiàng)目著眼于更長(zhǎng)遠(yuǎn)的發(fā)展，并沒(méi)有確定提出任何結(jié)論的日期。該計(jì)劃的官方名稱(chēng)為“社區(qū)計(jì)劃”，計(jì)劃在未來(lái)10年向75個(gè)地區(qū)投資15億英鎊。
However, ministers are also mindful of the more immediate worry of a repeat of last summer’s disorder, after which there were more than 1,800 arrests and nearly 1,100 charges, with hundreds of people jailed.
然而，大臣們也注意到更緊迫的擔(dān)憂，即去年夏天的騷亂（在那之后，有1800多人被捕，近1100人被指控，數(shù)百人被判入獄）會(huì)重演。
One potential flashpoint could be an asylum hotel in Epping, Essex, which has been the target for a series of protests in recent days, and where police were attacked.
一個(gè)潛在的引爆點(diǎn)可能是埃塞克斯郡埃平的一家庇護(hù)旅館。最近幾天，這家旅館一直是一系列抗議活動(dòng)的目標(biāo)，警方也在那里遭到襲擊。
The far-right agitator known as Tommy Robinson has promised on social media to bring “thousands” of people to join a mass protest at the hotel on Sunday. Similar demonstrations have taken place at a hotel in Diss, Norfolk.
極右翼煽動(dòng)者湯米·羅賓遜在社交媒體上承諾，將帶領(lǐng)“數(shù)千人”參加周日在酒店舉行的大規(guī)模抗議活動(dòng)。在諾?？丝さ纤沟囊患揖频暌舶l(fā)生了類(lèi)似的示威活動(dòng)。
There are procedures for the prime minister to be kept informed even when he is away. Starmer cancelled his summer holiday last year because of the rioting. Officials have refused to comment on any contingency plans in place this year, saying they could not “get into speculation”.
有一些程序可以讓首相即使不在也能隨時(shí)了解情況。由于騷亂，斯塔默去年取消了他的暑假。官員們拒絕對(duì)今年實(shí)施的任何應(yīng)急計(jì)劃發(fā)表評(píng)論，稱(chēng)他們不能“進(jìn)行猜測(cè)”。
There is an additional political impetus for ministers to take seriously the possibility of wider disorder given the likelihood it would be exploited by Nigel Farage, who used a speech about crime on Monday to say much of the UK was experiencing “nothing short of societal collapse”.
鑒于奈杰爾·法拉奇可能利用這一可能性，大臣們認(rèn)真對(duì)待更大范圍騷亂的可能性，這是一個(gè)額外的政治動(dòng)力。法拉奇周一在一次關(guān)于犯罪的演講中表示，英國(guó)大部分地區(qū)正在經(jīng)歷“社會(huì)崩潰”。
He told an event: “I don’t think anybody in London can understand just how close we are to civil disobedience on a vast scale in this country.”
他在一次活動(dòng)中說(shuō)：“我認(rèn)為倫敦沒(méi)有人能理解我們離這個(gè)國(guó)家大規(guī)模的公民不服從有多近?！?br />
Government officials insisted, however, that the cabinet discussion was not a response to the Reform UK leader, pointing to previous comments about the many social drivers of dissatisfaction that were made by Starmer after last year’s disorder.
然而，政府官員堅(jiān)稱(chēng)，內(nèi)閣討論不是對(duì)這位英國(guó)改革黨領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人的回應(yīng)，他們指出，在去年騷亂發(fā)生后，斯塔默曾發(fā)表評(píng)論，指出許多社會(huì)因素導(dǎo)致了不滿(mǎn)。
“The broad point is that we have to invest in our social fabric,” one said. “People have felt for years that governments have not delivered for them. We need to deliver change they can feel.”
其中一人表示：“總體而言，我們必須投資于我們的社會(huì)結(jié)構(gòu)。多年來(lái)，人們一直感到政府沒(méi)有為他們提供服務(wù)。我們需要提供他們能感受到的改變?！?br />
Among initiatives launched after the summer riots was a cross-party commission intended to examine and ease community divisions. The Independent Commission on Community and Cohesion met for the first time in June.
在夏季騷亂后發(fā)起的倡議中，有一個(gè)跨黨派委員會(huì)成立，旨在調(diào)查和緩解社區(qū)分歧。社區(qū)與凝聚力獨(dú)立委員會(huì)于6月舉行了首次會(huì)議。
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Chasing the racist vote again. Shame on Labour
又在爭(zhēng)取種族主義者的選票。工黨可恥
Big-Mongoose-9070
It is amazing people in office who show no political will at all to tackle both legal and illegal immigration write such stern articles as this.
This just adds to people losing faith.
令人驚訝的是，那些沒(méi)有表現(xiàn)出任何政治意愿來(lái)解決合法和非法移民問(wèn)題的人寫(xiě)出了如此嚴(yán)厲的文章。
這只會(huì)讓人們失去信心。
hu6Bi5To
This is a specific political technique. I'm sure it has a name, but I don't know what it is. It goes like this:
Step 1 - the public are talking about Topic A, on which I am weak.
Step 2 - an opinion piece or a speech "I hear people are concerned about Topic A; I'm concerned about Topic A as well, and Topic B; we must listen!" (where Topic B is a topic the speaker is stronger on)
Step 3 - "I've listened to all your concerns about Topics A and B, that's why... "
The result is you've successfully completely ignored Topic A but your base thinks you've addressed it. The hardliners on Topic A won't fall for it, but as long as enough people in the middle do, that's all that matters.
這是一種特殊的政治技巧。我肯定它有名字，但我不知道是什么。它是這樣的：
第一步——公眾在談?wù)撛掝}A，而我在這個(gè)話題上很弱。
第二步——“我聽(tīng)說(shuō)人們很關(guān)心話題A；我也關(guān)心話題A和話題B；我們必須傾聽(tīng)！”（話題B是演講者更擅長(zhǎng)的話題）
第三步——“我已經(jīng)聽(tīng)了你對(duì)話題A和B的所有擔(dān)憂，這就是為什么……<僅影響主題B的事物列表>"
結(jié)果是你成功地完全無(wú)視了話題A，但你的票基認(rèn)為你已經(jīng)解決了它。話題A上的強(qiáng)硬派不會(huì)上當(dāng)，但只要中間有足夠多的人上當(dāng)即可，這才是最重要的。
SeveralAnteater292
The major issue with immigration is your everyday person struggling to get by, having to work all their lives sometimes never getting a house and then seeing the system being exploited and taxpayer money just being given away to people not from this place. Tough pill to swallow.
移民的主要問(wèn)題在于你的日常生活掙扎度日，不得不工作一輩子，有時(shí)永遠(yuǎn)沒(méi)有房子，然后看到這個(gè)系統(tǒng)被利用，納稅人的錢(qián)直接給了不是這個(gè)地方的人。難以接受的事實(shí)。
SiYiSMA
Exactly this. I wonder how many anti-immigration riots there would be if everyone had access to affordable housing and a job with a real living wage.
一針見(jiàn)血。我想知道，如果每個(gè)人都有負(fù)擔(dān)得起的住房和一份有真正生活工資的工作，還會(huì)有多少反移民騷亂發(fā)生。
RacistCarrot
Add a well functioning and efficient healthcare system to that pile
再加上一個(gè)運(yùn)轉(zhuǎn)良好、效率很高的醫(yī)療體系
PMeisterGeneral
I can relate to frustrations with the standard of living falling whilst housing costs skyrocket but think that's down much more to skyrocketing wealth inequality than it is immigration.
For example if all immigrants were deported tomorrow and immigration fell to zero would your wages shoot up whilst house prices fell to affordable levels?
我對(duì)生活水平下降和住房成本飆升感到沮喪，但我認(rèn)為這更多是由于財(cái)富不平等的加劇，而不是移民。
例如，假如明天所有的移民都被驅(qū)逐出境，移民數(shù)量降至零，你的工資會(huì)飆升，而房?jī)r(jià)會(huì)降至可承受的水平嗎？
Hellstorm901
There's no easy solution to this crisis but let us not for a moment fall for Reform UK's nonsense and the product they are selling which they advertise will stop the small boats and illegal immigrants overnight as it is about as believable as a man on a wagon in the old west telling you his murky bottle of yellow liquid will cure all ailments
這場(chǎng)危機(jī)沒(méi)有簡(jiǎn)單的解決方案，但讓我們暫時(shí)不要相信英國(guó)改革黨的扯淡——他們宣傳的產(chǎn)品會(huì)在一夜之間阻止小船和非法移民，因?yàn)檫@就像一個(gè)人在舊西部的馬車(chē)上告訴你他瓶子里的黃色渾濁液體能治愈所有疾病一樣令人信服
lerkterk
There is an easy solution, take the incentive for illegal crossings away. These economic illegals are leaving a first world country to cross the channel and risk their lives.. why is that? Because we're a pathetic country that gives them accommodation, 3 meals a day, healthcare, phones, pocket money. It's absolutely absurd. France are more than happy with them living in camp slums, why aren't we? Labour talked about "smashing the gangs" - it's about as useful as America's war on drugs. It won't end because where there is opportunity there is always someone willing to step in and try and take advantage of it. Whilst there are illegals who want to cross the channel there will be a gang. And where we continue to portray ourselves as the land of milk and honey there will be willing illegals. It's not hard, totally gut the pathetic image we portray. We need to get a grip as a nation and get tough. Set up similar slum camps near the coast where illegals are detained indefinitely until they agree to leave. Basic water and food, no phones. Make them know that they're leaving the French slum to the exact same scenario. I guarantee that would reduce the number drastically but it won't happen because for some reason our politicians don't have a backbone.
有一個(gè)簡(jiǎn)單的解決辦法，就是消除非法越境的誘因。這些經(jīng)濟(jì)非法移民正在離開(kāi)一個(gè)第一世界國(guó)家，冒著生命危險(xiǎn)橫渡海峽。為什么呢？因?yàn)槲覀兪且粋€(gè)可悲的國(guó)家，給他們住宿，一日三餐，醫(yī)療保健，手機(jī)，零用錢(qián)。這絕對(duì)是荒謬的。法國(guó)人對(duì)讓他們住在難民營(yíng)貧民窟非常滿(mǎn)意，我們?yōu)槭裁床荒?？工黨談?wù)摗胺鬯楹趲汀薄@和美國(guó)的毒品戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)一樣有用。它不會(huì)結(jié)束，因?yàn)橹灰袡C(jī)會(huì)，就會(huì)有人愿意介入并試圖利用它。當(dāng)有非法移民想要穿越英吉利海峽時(shí)，就會(huì)有一個(gè)黑幫。在我們繼續(xù)把自己描繪成淌著牛奶和蜂蜜之地的地方，就會(huì)有自愿的非法移民。這并不難，完全摧毀我們所描繪的可悲形象。作為一個(gè)國(guó)家，我們需要控制局面，變得強(qiáng)硬起來(lái)。在海岸附近建立類(lèi)似的貧民窟營(yíng)地，非法移民被無(wú)限期拘留，直到他們同意離開(kāi)。只給基本的水和食物，沒(méi)有手機(jī)。讓他們知道，他們離開(kāi)法國(guó)貧民窟時(shí)，也會(huì)經(jīng)歷同樣的場(chǎng)景。我保證這將大大減少其數(shù)量，但這不會(huì)發(fā)生，因?yàn)槌鲇谀撤N原因，我們的政客沒(méi)有骨氣。
New-Doctor9300
No im fairly certain its the fact that the future of many peoples lives have been fucked over. Age of retirement being pushed up, wages stagnating, housing and living costs going up. People see nothing in the future and realise that nothing will change.
Immigration is a cheap and easy distraction.
不，我相當(dāng)確定，許多人的未來(lái)生活已經(jīng)被搞砸了是一個(gè)事實(shí)。退休年齡被推遲，工資停滯不前，住房和生活成本上升。人們看不到未來(lái)，也意識(shí)到什么都不會(huì)改變。
移民只是一種廉價(jià)且容易分散注意力的手段。
freemason6999
But what if high immigration is pushing up housing costs and causing wages to stagnate. Surely you understand the concept of supply and demand.
但是，如果大量移民推高了住房成本，導(dǎo)致工資停滯不前呢？你肯定明白供需的概念。
New-Doctor9300
But what if high rent and housing costs were down to the fact that real estate companies and landlords are buying up all the properties to resell for an extortionate price?
但是，如果高昂的租金和住房成本是由于房地產(chǎn)公司和房東買(mǎi)下所有房產(chǎn)，然后以高得離譜的價(jià)格轉(zhuǎn)售，情況又會(huì)怎樣呢？
DrIvoPingasnik
THAT'S what's causing UK public to lose faith in politicians?
That's it? Nobody cared about all the other things like rampant corruption, obstructing bureaucracy, gross incompetence, crumbling NHS, firing of thousands of police officers, austerity, cambridge analitica, defrauding millions in contracts for covid ppe, cuts to Royal Mail, mini fucking budget, stamp duty, housing crisis, allowing the energy companies to fleece people, cost of living crisis...
But immigration and deprivation crossed the line?
Get me the hell out of here, this country and its people are done.
這就是導(dǎo)致英國(guó)公眾對(duì)政客們失去信心的原因嗎？
就這些嗎？沒(méi)有人關(guān)心所有其他的事情，比如猖獗的腐敗、阻礙官僚主義、嚴(yán)重的無(wú)能、崩潰的國(guó)家醫(yī)療體系、解雇數(shù)千名警察、財(cái)政緊縮、劍橋分析、在疫情防護(hù)裝備合同中欺騙數(shù)百萬(wàn)人、削減皇家郵政、迷你預(yù)算、印花稅、住房危機(jī)、允許能源公司敲詐人民、生活成本危機(jī)……
但是移民和貧困越過(guò)了界限？
tmd放我出去，這個(gè)國(guó)家和人民完蛋了。
Inverted_Goalkeeper
Extreme levels of immigration causes most the shit you listed lol. How are you even confused that immigration is simply the major pressing issue in the country at the moment. If it keeps going as it is, we will look exactly like Pakistan in 50 years. If you’re not concerned about that, then I don’t know what to say.
極端的移民水平導(dǎo)致了你列出的大部分問(wèn)題，呵呵。你怎么會(huì)覺(jué)得移民只是這個(gè)國(guó)家目前最緊迫的問(wèn)題。如果照這樣發(fā)展下去，50年后我們會(huì)變成巴基斯坦的樣子。如果你不擔(dān)心這個(gè)，那我不知道該說(shuō)什么了。
SpacevsGravityEngland
I'm Pakistani and I've seen more Pakistanis in Birmingham than in Pakistan but that's not even the point. How many taxi drivers or deliveroo riders does this country need?
我是巴基斯坦人，我在伯明翰看到的巴基斯坦人比在巴基斯坦的還多，但這不是重點(diǎn)。這個(gè)國(guó)家需要多少出租車(chē)司機(jī)或快遞員？
Rainbow-Lizard
If the government actually incentivized meeting house building targets we need and funded the actual processing of immigration claims, I'd bet a huge number of immigrants and refugees would go into construction, which would be better for them and better for the country.
But they don't, so they're stuck in fake app jobs because a) they legally can't do real jobs due to the administrative backlog and b) there aren't any real jobs for them.
如果政府真的鼓勵(lì)滿(mǎn)足我們需要的住房建設(shè)目標(biāo)，并為真實(shí)的移民申請(qǐng)?zhí)幚硖峁┵Y金，我敢打賭，大量的移民和難民將進(jìn)入建筑業(yè)，這對(duì)他們和國(guó)家都更好。
但他們沒(méi)有，所以他們被困在虛假的app工作中，因?yàn)?.由于行政積壓，他們?cè)诜缮喜荒軓氖抡嬲墓ぷ鳎?.沒(méi)有任何真正的工作適合他們。
Employ-Personal
It’s neither of these, the real reason is that the government has lost legitimacy with the British population, immigration and deprivation are symptoms of incompetent ministers, uncaring and selfish civil service and the fact that the ruling elite has absofuckinglutely no idea what the native population want and actively dislikes and is contemptuous of them.
這兩者都不是，真正的原因是政府在英國(guó)人民中失去了合法性，移民和貧困是無(wú)能的大臣、冷漠和自私的公務(wù)員，以及絕對(duì)tmd不知道本土人口想要什么，而且非常不喜歡和蔑視他們統(tǒng)治精英導(dǎo)致的癥狀。
Trick_Bus9133
The thing that is making people lose faith in politicians is that politicians are corrupt, self obsessed, power hungry sell outs that are happy to support GENOCIDE and kill disabled people as long as it means their mates (and in turn their pensions) have vast increases of wealth.
讓人們對(duì)政客失去信心的是，政客們腐敗、自私、渴望權(quán)力，他們樂(lè)于支持種族滅絕和殺害殘疾人，只要這意味著他們的同伙（以及他們的養(yǎng)老金）的財(cái)富大幅增加。
2024-YR4
Things are spiralling out of control, and it seems conventional politics has us locked into a trajectory for collapse.
Feels more like a managed decline at this point.
Shame no lessons have been learnt from history. Silly humans
事情正在失去控制，而傳統(tǒng)政治似乎已將我們鎖定在了崩潰的軌道上。
現(xiàn)在感覺(jué)更像是一種有計(jì)劃的衰退。
可恥的是沒(méi)有從歷史中吸取任何教訓(xùn)。愚蠢的人類(lèi)