When China and India commission the first of a new generation of frigates at almost the same time, whose design is superior? Whose combat power can really carry the ocean heavy responsibility?
In January 2025, China’s 054B frigate “Luohe” and India’s P17A frigate “Nilgiri” were officially commissioned. This "sea race" across the Himalayas instantly attracted global attention. These two types of frigates not only represent the latest achievements of naval modernization in China and India, but also reflect very different military industrial systems and strategic thinking.
China’s 054B focuses on precise positioning and mature technology to achieve rapid iterative development, while India’s P17A attempts to build a “super warship” through a universal assembly approach.
In this silent competition, does the larger tonnage of the Indian ship offer an advantage, or is the Chinese frigate’s cost-effective philosophy more effective?
From a design standpoint, the 054B has a full load displacement of about 5,500 to 5,700 tons. It continues the modular design concept of the 054A, but with comprehensive upgrades in power systems, radar detection, stealth performance, and more. Its core mission is to serve as the “underwater shield” of carrier formations, focusing on anti-submarine warfare and medium-range air defense, while also handling ocean patrol and escort missions.
The Indian P17A, although labeled as a frigate, has a massive displacement of 6,700 tons—exceeding the destroyer standards of many countries. It aims to take on air defense command functions similar to India’s P15A/B destroyers.
This difference in positioning is reflected in onboard systems. The 054B uses an S-band dual-side rotating phased array radar with a detection range of 400 km and is equipped with Red Flag-16FE missiles with a 160 km range, forming a layered air defense network. In contrast, the P17A uses Israeli EL/M-2248 four-face phased array radar with only 250 km detection range and Barak-8 missiles with a maximum range of 70 km, making it less capable against modern anti-ship missile threats.
In anti-submarine warfare, the 054B shows significant advantages. It carries the D-20F anti-submarine helicopter with a combat radius over 200 km, along with bow sonar, towed array sonar, and rocket-assisted torpedoes, forming a triad anti-submarine system. Its all-electric propulsion reduces mechanical noise by 60%, enhancing stealth.
On the other hand, the P17A, despite its larger size, lacks a dedicated anti-submarine helicopter and relies on shipborne sonar and Russian anti-submarine rockets. Its anti-submarine capabilities remain at the early 054A level, and integration issues in the power system result in poor noise control.
This gap stems from differing battlefield understandings—China sees anti-submarine warfare as key to carrier group survival, while India remains influenced by the “big ship equals strength” mindset.
In terms of firepower, the 054B features a 32-cell vertical launch system. Through missile upgrades, it achieves asymmetric advantages: Red Flag-16FE can intercept hypersonic targets, Eagle-83A anti-ship missiles skim the sea at just 5 meters, and its 100mm main gun has a firing rate of 90 rounds/minute with land precision strike capability.
The P17A also has a 32-cell VLS, but can only launch Barak-8 missiles (70 km range). Its anti-ship capability relies on BrahMos missiles co-developed with Russia, with a 300 km range and Mach 3.5 speed, which lags behind modern air defense interception capabilities.
Crucially, 054B’s VLS is designed for future compatibility with electromagnetic railguns and laser weapon systems, while P17A’s universal equipment faces compatibility limitations, making future upgrades difficult.
The two countries’ shipbuilding efficiency and cost control also contrast sharply. China builds 054Bs using a dual-factory model in the north and south, reducing construction cycles to 18 months while keeping costs reasonable. At least 40 ships are planned to form a scale advantage. In contrast, India’s first P17A ship took 10 years to build, costing $1.07 billion, and suffered structural issues due to a gantry crane collapse. The timeline for the remaining seven ships remains uncertain.
Behind this is a fundamental difference in military industrial systems. China has achieved full autonomy across the radar, power, and weapon system supply chains. India’s P17A relies on Israeli radar, Russian and Israeli missiles, and U.S./German power systems, with an assembly-based development model that limits combat capability.
Looking ahead to future battlefields, the 054B’s “systematic thinking” is more forward-looking. Its integrated stealth mast and AI-assisted decision-making system enable real-time data sharing with 055 destroyers and aircraft carriers, playing a key role in anti-access/area denial strategies.
Although the P17A attempts to create a “high-end” image with larger tonnage and more radars, the lack of subsystem synergy means actual performance may not reach half of its design specifications.
As the U.S. Navy reflected during the development of the Constellation-class frigates, a ship’s sophistication isn’t about individual parameters, but about maximizing performance through system integration. From this perspective, the 054B may not have the “visual deterrence” of the P17A, but its path of precise positioning and technological iteration reflects the Chinese Navy’s pragmatic philosophy of “not seeking absolute superiority, but practical efficiency.”
The choice of shipborne weapons also reflects different strategic thinking. India replaced the Italian OTO 76mm gun with the “Dart” guided shell to enhance anti-missile capabilities, compensating for a lack of close-in defense. China returned to the 100mm gun with higher rate of fire and heavier shells to strengthen land strike capabilities, supported by a complete defense system including the 1130 CIWS and Red Flag-10 missiles—eliminating the need for medium-caliber naval guns to fill in defense gaps.
From a geostrategic perspective, the deployment of the 054B is more profound. The first two ships were assigned to the North Sea and South Sea Fleets, enhancing regional anti-submarine networks for carrier groups and providing high-end platforms for patrols in disputed South China Sea waters.
India’s P17A is deployed in the Arabian Sea, driven by concerns over Pakistan and China's presence in the Indian Ocean. While its large-ship cruising mode enhances presence, it struggles to form effective tactical deterrence.
This difference in deployment reflects a deeper contrast in maritime strategies. China emphasizes systematic and functional oceanic capability building, while India remains caught in a myth of “quantity race” and “symbolic politics.”
This frigate “duel” is a microcosm of the modernization paths of two ancient civilizations. China, through a mode of “technological accumulation and iterative upgrading,” has achieved key breakthroughs in all-electric propulsion and intelligent command on the 054B. India, attempting to “buy modernization” to leapfrog its weak industrial base, finds itself trapped in a vicious cycle of “building is worse than buying, buying is worse than renting.”
When the second 054B “Qinzhou” enters service within 18 months, India’s first P17A is still struggling with outfitting and sea trials. This is not just a gap in shipbuilding efficiency, but a reflection of the maturity of national industrial systems.
@XkMeng
The heart is higher than the sky, the life is thinner than paper, the skin is thicker than the earth's surface, and the IQ is lower than that of a monkey
心比天高,命比紙薄,臉皮比地殼厚,智商比猴子低。
@Sacrafago90
The Barak 8 is not used, it's upxed version LR SAM is used with range of 100km,MH60R is ASW Helicopter used with it.
@SengpoSatbang
endian ship is a surprise... surprise it can float.
But that's about it..
恩迪亞的船真是個意外,沒想到它居然能浮起來,
不過也僅此而已。
@desmond7914
Correction. Indian warships are as excellent as the Tejas jets rejected by the Indian airforce. While the Indian media spin the propaganda that many countries have interests in the Tejas, prized more expensive than new F-35. Indian experts should test the obsolete warships with the equally obsolete Brahmos missiles.
@BRAHMOSPOWER
Still stuck with TEJAS......
while India has built it's AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, BMD SYSTEM, NUCLEAR SUBMARINES, HYPERSONIC MISSILE,LASER WEAPONS......
@guangxidavidliu
Comparing 1ndia to America please. Comparing 1ndia to China is an insult to China.
將印度與美國作比較吧,把印度和中國作比較是對中國的侮辱。
@arjundalvi2982
Nah it's the other way around, I actually doubt the quality of your nuclear attack submarines, which were critically damaged lately, I beleive they were 3 right???
The heart is higher than the sky, the life is thinner than paper, the skin is thicker than the earth's surface, and the IQ is lower than that of a monkey
心比天高,命比紙薄,臉皮比地殼厚,智商比猴子低。
The Barak 8 is not used, it's upxed version LR SAM is used with range of 100km,MH60R is ASW Helicopter used with it.
并沒有使用巴拉克8導(dǎo)彈,而是使用了其升級版本——射程達(dá)100公里的遠(yuǎn)程地對空導(dǎo)彈(LR SAM),搭配使用的還有MH-60R反潛直升機(jī)。
endian ship is a surprise... surprise it can float.
But that's about it..
恩迪亞的船真是個意外,沒想到它居然能浮起來,
不過也僅此而已。
Correction. Indian warships are as excellent as the Tejas jets rejected by the Indian airforce. While the Indian media spin the propaganda that many countries have interests in the Tejas, prized more expensive than new F-35. Indian experts should test the obsolete warships with the equally obsolete Brahmos missiles.
修正一下,印度的軍艦就如同被印度空軍拒絕的光輝戰(zhàn)機(jī)一樣優(yōu)秀。盡管印度媒體極力宣傳許多國家對光輝戰(zhàn)機(jī)感興趣,但實(shí)際上其價(jià)格甚至比全新的F-35還要昂貴。印度的專家們或許應(yīng)該用同樣過時(shí)的布拉莫斯導(dǎo)彈來測試這些過時(shí)的軍艦。
Still stuck with TEJAS......
while India has built it's AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, BMD SYSTEM, NUCLEAR SUBMARINES, HYPERSONIC MISSILE,LASER WEAPONS......
印度仍然陷在“光輝”戰(zhàn)機(jī)的坑里......(笑哭)
與此同時(shí),印度還要造航空母艦、彈道導(dǎo)彈防御系統(tǒng)、核潛艇、高超音速導(dǎo)彈、激光武器......
There's no toilet in Endian warships.
恩迪亞的戰(zhàn)艦里沒有廁所。哈哈哈哈
They use pakistani mouths
他們使用巴基斯坦人的嘴巴來配音 (笑哭)
@BRAHMOSPOWER In yours.
@BRAHMOSPOWER 在你的嘴里。
Not funny bro, grow up
不好笑,兄弟,成熟點(diǎn)吧。
@arjundalvi2982 curry smells free speech bro
@arjundalvi2982 咖喱味道自由言論兄弟
@BRAHMOSPOWER wkkwkw curry smells SAAAR Yee saaar
Free speech bro
@BRAHMOSPOWER 哈哈哈 咖喱味太重了啊, 是!先生!
哥們,言論自由嘛!
Comparing 1ndia to America please. Comparing 1ndia to China is an insult to China.
將印度與美國作比較吧,把印度和中國作比較是對中國的侮辱。
Nah it's the other way around, I actually doubt the quality of your nuclear attack submarines, which were critically damaged lately, I beleive they were 3 right???
不,正相反,我真的懷疑你們核攻擊潛艇的質(zhì)量,最近還發(fā)生了嚴(yán)重?fù)p壞的事故,我記得好像是三艘,對吧??
Nahh bro seen Chinese construction in military a super low grade
兄弟,我見過中國的軍事建設(shè),那是超級低水平的級別。
I just thinking the account has joined last year and knows everything
我就在想,這個賬號去年才注冊卻懂任何事情 (笑哭)
What Chinese puppets are doing here? Got to Tik Talk make some funny videos this is not your area
這些中國人偶在這兒干什么?快去TikTok拍些搞笑視頻吧,這兒不是你們該來的地方。