紅迪熱論：小米SU7 Ultra在中國上市，馬力高達(dá)1500匹，售價僅73000美金！
Xiaomi SU7 Ultra with 1526 hp launched in China for 72,830 USD
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2025年2月27日，小米汽車--小米SU7 Ultra正式上市，售價52.99萬元起。作為小米SU7系列旗艦車型，小米SU7 Ultra在產(chǎn)品開發(fā)之初，目標(biāo)重新定義豪車新標(biāo)準(zhǔn)。在產(chǎn)品體驗(yàn)上，目標(biāo)在科技上緊追特斯拉、性能比肩保時捷，豪華媲美奔馳、寶馬、奧迪。
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It's just released with the price of 529 k yuan (previously said to be 820k). xiaomi expect 10 k sales of SU 7 ultra for 2025. I think it will sell more than 10k units.
剛發(fā)布的價格是52.9萬人民幣（之前說是82萬）。小米預(yù)計2025年SU7 Ultra能賣1萬臺。我覺得這車肯定能賣得更多，1萬臺太保守了。
How does 1500 hp even get to the road properly without insane tires lol? Holy shit.
怎樣才能讓1500匹馬力穩(wěn)穩(wěn)地在路面上行駛呀，沒有超強(qiáng)頂配輪胎抓地怕不是要飛出去。臥槽，這也太猛了。
Check the video from YouTuber telescope. Obviously you can set it to some "comfort" mode which gives about 400 HP. Even on the track, he was driving in the "endurance" mode which only gives 900 HP. The 1500 is only supposed to be used seriously, like on a track.
看看油管博主telescope的視頻就知道了。很明顯你可以調(diào)到舒適模式，大概400馬力。就算在賽道上，他也是用"耐力賽"模式開的，只有900馬力。1500馬力那是要動真格的時候才用的，比如在賽道上飆車。
It has tires import from Europe.
這車用的是歐洲進(jìn)口輪胎
At higher speed I assume grip is less of an issue for acceleration and it gets more power limited, though I guess performance at 150+ doesn't matter at all outside the track
速度上來之后，抓地力對加速的影響應(yīng)該就沒那么大了，更多是受限于動力。不過話說回來，150+的速度除了在賽道上，其他地方也用不上吧，誰沒事開那么快??！
Correct - the tire contact patches have a limited force they can apply to push the road backward/push the car forward. And since speed * force = power. And since power is approximately constant (very roughly), 1500 hp would overcome the contact patches friction at low speeds (spin tires) but not at high speeds. So I would guess this has a good 0-60mph time, but amazing higher end acceleration (say 100-150mph)
沒錯——輪胎與地面接觸的部分施加的力是有限的，它的作用是推動路面向后或推動汽車向前。由于速度乘以力等于功率，而功率大致是恒定的（非常粗略地說），所以在低速時，1500馬力能夠克服接觸面上的摩擦力（比如輪胎打滑），但在高速時就不行了。因此，我猜這輛車的0-60英里/小時加速時間應(yīng)該不錯，但更令人驚訝的應(yīng)該是它在高速區(qū)間的加速性能（例如100-150英里/小時）。
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my 762hp model S seems to do just fine with all seasons even in the rain.
我那762馬力的特斯拉Model S各個季節(jié)開起來也完全沒問題，哪怕是雨天
The preordered amount has been over 10k. So impressive
預(yù)售量就已經(jīng)破萬了，這也太頂了吧！
Many people preordered cyber trucks and then cancelled when they were so bad.
很多人預(yù)定了賽博卡車（特斯拉2019發(fā)布的一款電動皮卡），結(jié)果發(fā)現(xiàn)太拉胯了，直接退單了。
If xiaomi executes well, we'll probably see the opposite effect here.
如果小米這波表現(xiàn)出色的話，咱們很可能會看到完全相反的情況
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This car confuses me so much, these specs and those prices should be impossible
這輛車讓我一臉懵逼，這樣的配置和價格應(yīng)該是不可能的。
All Chinese car prices seem impossible when directly converted. Domestic competition is massive, they're operating at thin or negative profit margins to gain market share, big economies of scale, vertical integration, and there isn't a dealership middleman demanding their share.
The most expensive trim and 530hp version of the BYD Seal, for comparison, sells for $25.000 converted.
中國汽車的價格直接換算后簡直離譜。國內(nèi)競爭太激烈了，車企們都在薄利多銷甚至虧本賺吆喝，就為了搶占市場份額。他們玩的是規(guī)模經(jīng)濟(jì)，產(chǎn)業(yè)鏈垂直整合，而且沒有中間商賺差價。
就拿比亞迪海豹來說，頂配530馬力的版本換算成美元才2萬。
$10,000 profit per car is not the same in the US vs China. Everything is cheaper in China, there is more value per dollar.
美中兩國每輛車賺1萬美元的利潤差別可大了。在中國，幾乎所有東西都很便宜，一美元能買到的東西更多。
Imagine what actual competition would do to the US market
想象一下真正的競爭會給美國市場帶來什么沖擊
Id assume most car companies would go under and everything will be manufactured in China not the US. Is this what people prefer? Sure cars could be cheaper but will people have any jobs to buy stuff?
我猜大多數(shù)汽車公司都會倒閉，所有東西都會在中國制造而不是美國。這是大家想要的嗎？車是便宜了，但到時候大家還有工作能買得起東西嗎？
Free market baby, thats what US has been touting for it
自由市場萬歲，這不就是美國一直在吹捧的玩意兒么
Exactly. It would be amazing for our evolution as a nation.
We could allow China to build all these things and but then for cheap. That way Americans can spend much more money on other things.
Also, it would allow Americans to focus on other jobs that’s produce value in other ways instead of just being labor slaves
沒錯，這對我們國家的發(fā)展來說簡直太棒了！
我們可以讓中國來建造這些東西，而且價格還便宜。這樣一來，美國人就能把更多的錢花在其他地方了。
而且，這還能讓美國人專注于其他更能創(chuàng)造價值的工作，而不是整天當(dāng)苦力。
incredible to think that the country that's supposed to be the flagbearer of free market is US in this scenario.
真是讓人難以置信，在這種情況下，號稱自由市場旗手的居然是美國。
But this is not “actual” competition. It’s China VS other markets. It’s not the same. There are a lot of things behind final price
但這可不是真正的"公平競爭"。這是中國VS其他市場，完全不是一回事。最終價格背后藏著太多門道了。
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While you make some valid points, they wouldn't apply to halo cars such the SU7 Ultra, which isn't meant to be sold in large numbers.
雖然你說得有點(diǎn)道理，但這些觀點(diǎn)并不適用于像SU7 Ultra這樣的旗艦車型。這種車本來就不是走量的，主打的就是一個高端定位。
Apparently they expect to sell 10k of it this year, but I guess large numbers is relative
聽說他們今年打算賣1萬臺，不過嘛，數(shù)量多少都是相對的
xiaomi just announced that they have got 10k orders in two hours!
小米剛剛宣布，他們兩小時內(nèi)就接到了1萬單！這也太猛了吧！
Not surprised
一點(diǎn)都不意外
Don’t forget that many of the Chinese EV companies are partly government owned, enjoy massive subsidies on their development and benefit from the questionably cheap labour costs in China.
別忘了，很多中國電動車企業(yè)都有Z府持股，享受著巨額研發(fā)補(bǔ)貼，還從中國那說不清道不明的廉價勞動力成本中獲益。
I don’t know why this gets downvoted.
American car manufacturers benefit from things like direct loans during the bailout, massive subsidies of oil companies making gasoline cheaper, our free highway system, and underinvestment in alternative transport like intercity trains.
真不明白為什么這帖子會被踩。美國的汽車制造商可是占了不少便宜，比如救助計劃中的直接貸款、石油公司獲得的巨額補(bǔ)貼讓汽油更便宜、免費(fèi)的高速公路系統(tǒng)，還有對城際列車等替代交通方式投資不足，這些都在為他們提供幫助。
It's downvoted because it's superficial and outdated. If you ever visited Chinese factories and did on-site investigations of their industries in recent years, it's easy to realize the low cost of Chinese products mainly comes from high automation ratio, fully arranged supply chain and massive competition, rather than cheap labor.
It's not that cheap anymore. That's why low-end products manufacturers mostly moved their factories to Vietnam, and high-end ones invested a lot in AI+manufacturing. Workers losing jobs became a major social problem there.
In terms of gov subsidies, they did that 20 years ago to initiate supply chain, and 10 years ago to prioritize EV in public transportation contracts, and 2 years till now to facilitate EV buyers on vehicle registration. The overall money is about the same as federal gov subsidies to Intel and Boeing. Everyone does the same, but they do in a smarter and cleaner way.
被踩是因?yàn)橛行┤颂w淺沒見過世面。如果你最近幾年去過中國工廠，實(shí)地考察過他們的產(chǎn)業(yè)，很容易就會發(fā)現(xiàn)中國產(chǎn)品的低成本主要來自高自動化率、完善供應(yīng)鏈和激烈的競爭，而不是廉價勞動力。
現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)沒那么便宜了。這就是為什么低端產(chǎn)品制造商大多把工廠搬到了越南，而高端產(chǎn)品制造商則在AI+制造上投入巨資。工人失業(yè)在那里已經(jīng)成為一個主要的社會問題。
至于政府補(bǔ)貼，20年前他們這么做是為了啟動供應(yīng)鏈，10年前是為了在公共交通合同中優(yōu)先考慮電動車，而最近兩年則是為了促進(jìn)電動車買家的車輛登記。總體金額與聯(lián)邦政府對英特爾和波音的補(bǔ)貼差不多。大家都在做同樣的事，但他們做得更聰明、更干凈。
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Let's you know how these legacy car companies overcharge you.
讓你后知后覺那些老牌車企是怎么割韭菜的。
Nobody is overcharging you, its just Chinese are immensely efficient + intentionally undervalued Yuan + Massive state subsidies.
Although xiaomi is absurd even when calculating these
沒人坑你錢，只是中國人效率高得離譜+人民幣故意被低估+國家補(bǔ)貼力度大。
就算把這些因素都算進(jìn)去，小米的價格還是低得離譜。
Well the JV companies (SAIC-GM, FAW-VW, GAC-Toyota etc) have access to the same supply chain, same currency, and never mind state subsidies, they are literally 51% state OWNED, yet they were still charging high prices for cars until literally 2023 when Tesla started a price war and all the non state owned Chinese automakers joined in, forcing the JV carmakers to join in as well.
Which means even the Chinese consumers were getting overcharged for DECADES (with half of those profits going right overseas to foreign shareholders) until the domestic EV makers finally produced REAL competition just a few years ago.
這些合資企業(yè)（上汽通用、一汽大眾、廣汽豐田等）明明享受著同樣的供應(yīng)鏈、同樣的貨幣環(huán)境，更別提還有國家補(bǔ)貼，它們可是實(shí)打?qū)嵉?1%國有控股?。】芍钡?023年特斯拉掀起價格戰(zhàn)，國內(nèi)非國有的車企紛紛跟進(jìn)，這些合資車企才被迫降價。
這意味著中國消費(fèi)者被宰了幾十年（一半利潤還直接流向了海外股東），直到幾年前中國電動車企真正崛起，才終于有了像樣的競爭。
You can sell at tiny margins during times of crisis, it doesn't mean you were overcharging before. It just means you're willing to take a hit to increase market share.
危機(jī)時期低價甩賣，不代表之前定價虛高。純粹是為了搶占市場份額，寧可自己吃點(diǎn)虧。說白了就是戰(zhàn)略性虧損，懂的自然懂。
Almost all Mini Cooper EVs are made in China with cheaper labor and older tech, yet they still charge a premium for it.
Still don't believe they are overcharging buyers?
幾乎所有Mini Cooper（寶馬子品牌）電動車都是在中國制造的，用的是便宜的勞動力和老技術(shù)，但他們還是賣得賊貴。還不信他們在割韭菜？
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Any car made in China is much more expensive elsewhere. When you see a Chinese EV in Europe, theyre not sold with china prices, theyre sold with Europa prices and frankly so far rather unsuccessful. And before you go 'because of tariffs', they already didnt sell well before the tariffs. Only the MG4 did decent.
中國造的車在國外都貴得離譜。你在歐洲看到中國電動車，那價格可不是中國的價，和歐洲車價差不了多少。說實(shí)話到現(xiàn)在為止賣得都不咋地。別急著說"是因?yàn)殛P(guān)稅"，沒加關(guān)稅之前就賣不動。也就MG4（名爵出的電動車）還算湊合。
If its selling, then its not overpriced.
能賣出去就說明價格沒毛病。
Chinese cars are very present in EU. Given the fact that no one knew about BYD or NIO three years ago, it is just stunning. The percentis still low, but quickly growing even here in Germany. It will not be easy for them in a conservative market like Germany, but the German manufacturers have messed it up big time. Let's see...
中國車在歐洲真是隨處可見?。∠胂肴昵罢l聽說過比亞迪和蔚來，現(xiàn)在這發(fā)展速度簡直讓人驚掉下巴。雖然市場份額還不大，但在德國這邊增長得飛快。德國這種保守市場對他們來說確實(shí)不容易，但德國車企自己把好牌打爛了也是事實(shí)。咱們拭目以待吧...
I mean compare a Model S to a Taycan. Is Porsche just 'overcharging'? Or are there merits to the higher price? One thing I always notice about 'affordable' high performance cars is that they often have shitty brakes, thats particularly true for Tesla. Theres a less performant cooling system and obviously a Taycan has been optimized to drive decent in corners too and not just straights.
When I see 1500hp EV for that price I immediately think of shit brakes, not so great cooling and a not awfully well refined driving experience outside the obvious very high hp numbers. Sure itll do well in a drag race because apparently thats the only thing that matters these days. 1500hp to me screams marketing more so than any point being behind it. Its way too much power for virtually anything that isnt a drag race. Even Porsche is struggling to find any good reason to go beyond 1000hp with the new Taycan GT. Sure they could give it 1200hp so it would beat the Model S Plaid more confidently on a drag race but Porsche doesnt care that much about drag races.
And the whole topic of 'overcharging', ofc a premium brand doesnt offer great value, thats never been the case, these cars/items are status symbols. You dont seem to understand the point of luxury/premium cars/items and you very obviously arent the target audience for it.
咱們拿Model S（特斯拉）和Taycan（保時捷）比一比。保時捷是不是在割韭菜？還是說高價有高價的道理？我經(jīng)常注意到那些親民的高性能車，剎車系統(tǒng)往往很拉胯，特斯拉尤其明顯。冷卻系統(tǒng)也不太行，而Taycan顯然在彎道表現(xiàn)上也下足了功夫，不只是直線加速牛逼。
看到1500馬力的電動車賣這個價，我第一反應(yīng)就是剎車肯定不行，冷卻系統(tǒng)更不咋地，除了馬力大得嚇人，駕駛體驗(yàn)估計也就那樣。當(dāng)然，直線加速賽肯定很猛，畢竟現(xiàn)在好像就只看這個了。1500馬力對我來說更像是營銷噱頭，而不是真的有什么實(shí)際意義。除了直線加速賽，這馬力簡直過剩到離譜。就連保時捷都在新款Taycan GT上糾結(jié)要不要突破1000馬力。他們當(dāng)然可以搞到1200馬力，這樣在直線加速賽上就能更輕松地干翻特斯拉Model S Plaid，但保時捷壓根兒不在乎這個。
至于"割韭菜"這個話題，高端品牌當(dāng)然不會給你性價比，從來都是這樣，這些豪車/奢侈品就是身份的象征。你好像沒搞懂豪車/奢侈品的意義，顯然你也不是它們的目標(biāo)用戶。
xiaomi SU7 Ultra is priced at only 529,999 RMB (73,002.59 USD) but boasts top-tier supercar performance, luxury car configurations, and first-tier autonomous driving capabilities.
小米SU7 Ultra只要52萬9999元人民幣（約合7萬3千美元），卻擁有頂級超跑的性能、豪車的硬件配置和一線水平的自動駕駛能力。
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This car's performance is comparable to the Taycan Turbo GT, but its price is only $73K, making it a true disruptor of performance cars and a top performer in terms of cost-effectiveness
這輛車的性能能夠與保時捷的Taycan Turbo GT媲美，但價格僅為73,000美元，真正成為了高性能車的顛覆者，并在性價比方面表現(xiàn)突出。
Absolutely it destroys Euro metal
沒錯，這車直接吊打歐洲豪車！
Bye bye European Legacy. xiaomi su7 has ended the speed legacy of Europe
歐洲速度神話拜拜咯，小米SU7已經(jīng)終結(jié)了歐洲的速度傳奇。
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the fact that this is their first car should scare all the legacy makes.
這居然是小米造的第一輛車，傳統(tǒng)車企看了通通都得瑟瑟發(fā)抖。
As much as i love lucid and what theyve done for EVs, it's crazy that xiaomi has managed to outclass it so heavily in both price and performance with their second vehicle. Unreal.
雖然我很喜歡Lucid（美國電動汽車制造商），他們?yōu)殡妱榆囎隽撕芏嘭暙I(xiàn)，但小米第二輛車就能在價格和性能上完爆它，這也太離譜了吧！
This give me shivering all around the body.
這讓我渾身起雞皮疙瘩
This is a crazy thing. You can buy a performance monster with the exchange rate of 520k RMB, which is 72k USD. In the Chinese auto market, this has a great impact on the market position of the BMW 5 Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class and Audi A6 at the same price. Even potential buyers of the BMW M2 will hesitate.
這簡直太瘋狂了！72k美元（約52萬人民幣）就能買到一臺性能怪獸。在中國汽車市場，這絕對會對同價位的寶馬5系、奔馳E級和奧迪A6的市場地位造成巨大沖擊。就連想買寶馬M2的人估計都得猶豫一下了。
I really hope that they bring it to Europe,
Would just love it if they make the same looking but lighter version with a smaller battery under 1,7 tones .
真心希望這車能引進(jìn)歐洲啊
要是能出個外觀一樣但更輕的版本，電池小一點(diǎn)，重量控制在1.7噸以下就完美了。
They are far behind on ramping up production to meet Chinese demands alone, so probably not exporting any overseas anytime soon.
他們連滿足中國本土需求的生產(chǎn)都跟不上，所以短期內(nèi)應(yīng)該不會出口到海外。
Considering the tariff factors, the market price in Europe may triple that in China.
考慮到關(guān)稅因素，歐洲市場的價格可能是中國的三倍。
IMO the driving assist is on point, its same like power saver mode in smartphone, even your phone using fastest chip if you turned ON the power saver then you wouldn't get the best from it. Its the same like this driving assist simply to make the car live longer than normal (or brutal) use from the owner
我覺得這個駕駛輔助系統(tǒng)很到位，就像手機(jī)里的省電模式一樣。就算你的手機(jī)用的是最快的芯片，開了省電模式后性能也會打折扣。這個駕駛輔助系統(tǒng)也是同理，就是為了讓車子在正常（或者暴力）使用的情況下能更耐用。
If it was exported it would destroy everything
要是這玩意兒出口那可就天下大亂了
Would love to have the SU7 here in Indonesia, it won't be 'cheap' but it would be nice to see a competition to BYD Seal (although that car will be destroyed by its own brother, the Sealion 7)
真希望SU7能來印尼啊，雖然價格不會太"親民"，但能看到它和比亞迪海豹（雖然這車可能會被自家兄弟海獅07干掉）競爭也挺有意思的
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This is why car manufacturers all over the world are scared
這就是為什么全球車企都瑟瑟發(fā)抖的原因
xiaomi Su7 Ultra is a beast
小米SU7 Ultra簡直就是性能怪獸
this is a great achievement by xiaomi
小米這次真是干得漂亮
What a stunning, sumptuous specimen of what an EV can and should be. This car is a game changing masterpiece at this price point. So beautiful, look at that interior . Thank you for the video and introducing it to the rest of the world in such a professional, well mannered fashion.
Idc what needs to be done, we've got to get this car to the USA and the rest of the world right now. It is obscene and a travesty that this tech exists at this price yet we can't have it. We do over $750 billion annually in trade with China. What's really going on!?
這車簡直是電動車界的顏值擔(dān)當(dāng)+實(shí)力派！在這個價位上，它絕對是顛覆性的杰作。內(nèi)飾美得讓人窒息。感謝大佬用這么專業(yè)又接地氣的方式給我們介紹這款神車。
不管用什么辦法，必須把這車搞到美國和其他國家來！這么牛逼的技術(shù)賣這個價，我們卻買不到，簡直離譜！明明中美每年貿(mào)易額都7500億美金了，這到底啥情況??？
guys，this car turned out to be less than 80k bucks for almost everything u need to race in a track and daily use, with 600 bucks a year as member for extra track service...
兄弟們，這車不到8萬美金就能搞定賽道和日常使用，而且每年只要600美金會員費(fèi)就能享受額外賽道服務(wù)...
As an engineer working on Active Safety systems, you hace to change your mindset om the priorities of these systems. The systems are tuned conservatively due to critical safety cases. Issues with sensor performance in all conditions. Compute limitations. And most importantly, issues with people's ability to intervene when something does go wrong. They often don't pay attention when the use these systems. The vehicles performance is rarely if ever factored in tuning those systems because of those constraints.
作為一名從事主動安全系統(tǒng)開發(fā)的工程師，您必須重新審視這些系統(tǒng)的優(yōu)先級。在關(guān)鍵安全場景下，這些系統(tǒng)的調(diào)校往往偏向保守。傳感器在各種條件下的表現(xiàn)、計算能力的限制，以及最重要的，當(dāng)系統(tǒng)出現(xiàn)問題時人類干預(yù)的能力，都是必須考慮的因素。此外，駕駛者在使用這些系統(tǒng)時往往缺乏足夠的專注力。正因如此，這些限制通常導(dǎo)致車輛的性能在主動安全系統(tǒng)的調(diào)校中被忽視。
Safety first. The driving sistem may be conservative but that is the point. Better that have a car that may by trying to kill you. Need 4speed go 2 the track.
安全第一。駕駛系統(tǒng)可能保守了點(diǎn)，但這就是重點(diǎn)。總比開著一輛想害死你的車強(qiáng)。想要飆車請去賽道。
Why cant we get this in the UsA jk I know the answer
為啥美國買不到這車??？開個玩笑，其實(shí)我懂啥原因
TARIFF！
關(guān)稅警告！
The SU7 base version just got the software upxe that stopped it crashing into obxts while self parking. Of course they are cautious with the self driving.
SU7基礎(chǔ)版剛剛收到了軟件更新，解決了自動泊車時撞到物體的問題。當(dāng)然啦，他們在自動駕駛這塊兒還是很謹(jǐn)慎的。
I'm still amazed how the table has turned that cars are cheaper in China compared with US. I remembered I bought a Lexus RX350 10 years ago for $48000 USD and at that time it was sold for $100,000 in China. Now if this car or any other EV are allowed to be sold in US with less than 30% tariff, they will crash Tesla easily.
真是讓人震驚，現(xiàn)在中國的車居然比美國便宜這么多！我記得10年前我花了4萬8千美元買了輛雷克薩斯RX350，當(dāng)時這車在中國要賣10萬美元?，F(xiàn)在要是這些車或者任何電動車能以低于30%的關(guān)稅在美國銷售，特斯拉怕是要被吊打了。
I suppose that's why the tariff is set at 100% and not 30. I wonder if they aren't going to become cheap enough to be imported even with that, price seems to be dropping fast and their tech is better.
我猜這就是為啥關(guān)稅定在100%而不是30%吧。不過我在想，就算現(xiàn)在這么高的關(guān)稅。但他們的價格降得這么快，技術(shù)還更先進(jìn)，會不會最后便宜到還是能進(jìn)口？
The 100% is arbitrary and simply indicative of a legal de facto ban. If Chinese EVs somehow become competitive with that number that number will simply go higher.
這個100%的關(guān)稅完全是拍腦袋定的，說白了就是變相禁止。要是中國電動車真能在這個稅率下還有競爭力，他們肯定還會繼續(xù)往上加。
Even at 100% tariff, sign me the fuck up! This price/performance ratio is just unreal!
就算加100%關(guān)稅，我也要沖爆！這性價比簡直離譜！
I don't think that it will crash Tesla easily because Tesla's Y and 3 are still top best selling cars in China
我覺得特斯拉不會那么容易崩，畢竟Model Y和Model 3在中國還是賣得挺好的吧
yeah, but the market share declined and they sell the car cheaper than US
是啊，但市場份額下降了，而且特斯拉在中國賣得比美國便宜。
Tesla as a pioneer of the EVs has massive brand value in China. It’s like Apple in smartphones.
特斯拉作為電動汽車的先鋒，在中國有著巨大的品牌價值。就像智能手機(jī)界的蘋果。
Tesla interior is referred to as “unfinished” by many people in China
Tesla’s brand value and novelty is quickly wearing off with the rise of Chinese EVs in recent years
特斯拉內(nèi)飾被很多中國網(wǎng)友吐槽"半成品"
近年來隨著中國電動車的崛起，特斯拉的品牌光環(huán)和新奇感正在快速消退
Holy hell, so they started preorders for the car at 110k USD, and then tells those customers a few months later that surprise! We are only going to charge you 73k for this car?
臥槽，他們一開始以11萬美金的價格開啟預(yù)訂，幾個月后突然告訴這些顧客：驚喜來咯！我們只收你7.3萬美金
if xiaomi (and byd) ever gets sold up here in canada...i can see enough asians (as Singaporean myself) swapping their teslas in vancouver. Hell, I'll trade in my mach-e for the YU7 if the price is right lol
要是小米（還有比亞迪）能在加拿大開賣...我敢說溫哥華這邊肯定有一大堆亞洲人（包括我這個新加坡人）會把自己的特斯拉換掉。說真的，要是價格合適，我連自己的野馬Mach-E都愿意換成小米YU7，哈哈。
Really no point putting the price in USD... you will never be able to buy it in the US, not to mention with that price.
標(biāo)美元價格真的沒啥意義...這玩意兒在美國根本買不到，更別說維持原價了。
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Domestic auto CEO's can afford to bring them over and are willing to pay any price to get a good car.
美國車企的CEO們完全有能力引進(jìn)這些豪車，而且為了搞到一輛好車，他們愿意不惜一切代價砸錢。
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There is a point if you ever leave the cave. Most people use USD as the reference currency before converting it back to local currency. In case you're not aware, people trade with USD on almost everything.
xiaomi will start exporting cars soon, the US with all the sanctions will be left out. Kinda their fault xiaomi started an EV division in the first place.
你要是真出過國門就該知道，大多數(shù)人都是先把錢換成美元，再換成當(dāng)?shù)刎泿拧Ｄ憧赡懿恢?，現(xiàn)在幾乎所有的國際貿(mào)易都是用美元結(jié)算的。
小米馬上要開始出口汽車了，美國搞了那么多制裁，肯定會被排除在外。要我說，當(dāng)初要不是搞芯片制裁，也不會逼得小米成立電動汽車部門。
Even with 100% tariff, it's still gona cost you less than what competitors offer in the states.
就算加上100%的關(guān)稅，也比美國本土競爭對手的報價便宜多了。
$73k for a supercar, holy shit. However, I know the real devil is in the details, so I don't know how the handling or brakes are compared to something like a Koenigsegg, Lamborghini, or Bugatti.
7.3萬美元買超跑，這也太離譜了吧！不過我知道真正的難題在于細(xì)節(jié)，所以不知道它的操控和剎車跟科尼賽克、蘭博基尼或者布加迪比起來咋樣。
I mean, look at the standard parts, bilstein EVO R shocks, Endless MA45B brake pads, P Zero/P Zero Trofeo RS tires 265 front 325 rear, and they are going to release a 2-seater Nürburgring special edition after their Nürburgring run this year. The performance of this car is no joke.
我是說，看看這些標(biāo)配：Bilstein EVO R避震器、Endless MA45B剎車片、前265后325的P Zero/P Zero Trofeo RS輪胎，而且他們今年在紐北跑完后還要推出雙座紐北特別版。這車的性能可不是鬧著玩的。
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Watched the track videos for it, seems very solid. They used carbon rotors and akebono brakes. Can wait for their Nurburgring track result which many racers expect to be sub 7 min
看了賽道視頻，感覺挺穩(wěn)的。他們用了碳陶瓷剎車盤和Akebono卡鉗。大家都在等紐北賽道成績，很多車手預(yù)測能跑進(jìn)7分鐘以內(nèi)，期待中~
Already broke the record in october, 6:46.
10月份就已經(jīng)打破紀(jì)錄了，6分46秒
That’s the ‘prototype’ car which is built differently from the su7 ultra you can actually buy
打破記錄的是"原型車"，跟你實(shí)際能買到的SU7 Ultra完全不是一回事兒。
They beat the taycan GT track record on Shanghai F1 track. So it’s actually pretty impressive.
他們在上海F1賽道上打破了保時捷Taycan GT的圈速記錄。確實(shí)挺令人印象深刻。
Im just wondering what you do with 1500hp. With supercars with an ICE you dont need to full throttle it to experience those cars. An ICE has infinitely more character than an electric motor. You can enjoy a Bugatti W16 engine without going anywhere near peak power.
Rivian has a high hp EV supercar and it hasnt sold all that well, they expected to sell more. Ofc that thing had a supercar price but genuinely, 1500hp just screams marketing more so than common sense. At that price i cant imagine it coming with brakes or battery cooling that could last multiple Nordschleife laps without overheating. Its probably still selling decent for a while but let me say this, Tesla nowadays barely sells any Model S and X despite 1000hp for a low price.
我就好奇1500匹馬力能干啥。開燃油超跑根本不需要踩到底就能體驗(yàn)到那種感覺。內(nèi)燃機(jī)的魅力可比電動機(jī)大多了。布加迪的W16引擎，不用開到極限就能爽到。
Rivian（美國電動車制造公司）搞了臺大馬力電動超跑，結(jié)果銷量不咋地，比預(yù)期差遠(yuǎn)了。當(dāng)然那玩意兒價格確實(shí)貴得離譜，但說真的，1500匹馬力更像是營銷噱頭，沒啥實(shí)際意義。這價位我都不敢想象它的剎車和電池散熱系統(tǒng)能不能撐得住在紐北跑圈?？赡芏唐趦?nèi)還能賣得不錯，但我要說的是，現(xiàn)在特斯拉的Model S和X就算有1000匹馬力還便宜，銷量也就那樣。
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Insane price for the specs. Question about the 10K target sales is only around production. if they can meet that, they will exceed the numbers easily.
This should be the model they should take to Europe, Australia, Singapore, Middle east etc whenever they have the domestic demand under control. will sell very well for sure.
這配置這價格簡直離譜！關(guān)于1萬臺的銷售目標(biāo)，唯一的問題就是產(chǎn)能。只要能搞定生產(chǎn)，銷量絕對輕松超預(yù)期。
等中國國內(nèi)需求穩(wěn)定了，這款車就該進(jìn)軍歐洲、澳大利亞、新加坡和中東市場了。絕對能賣爆！
They already sold 10k in the first 2hr
開售兩小時就賣出了1萬輛
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Question was around production. End of 2024 they sold > 139K vehicles and had locked 250K orders. Which means they have 100K+ backlog for their vehicles. This one will have special production line and I dont know how long it will take to hit 10K production.
Demand will not be the issue for sure.
問題主要圍繞產(chǎn)量。2024年底他們交付了超過13.9萬輛，并且鎖定了25萬輛的訂單。這意味著他們還有超過10萬輛的積壓訂單。這款車會有專門的生產(chǎn)線，但我不確定要達(dá)到月產(chǎn)1萬輛需要多久。
Phase 2 expansion of the factory is under going and new factory for YU7 is in construction.
I don’t know if it will be a brand new line for Ultra. Likely shared
二期車廠擴(kuò)建正在進(jìn)行中，YU7（小米即將退出的家用電動SUV）的新車廠也在建設(shè)中。
不知道Ultra會不會有全新的生產(chǎn)線，很可能是共用的。
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Did they fix the brake issue with this car?
這車的剎車問題修好了沒？
There’s never a brake issue. xiaomi already warned people if you want to race you need to upgrade the brake pad for 1000$
剎車從來不是問題。小米早就提醒過大家了，想飆車的話得花1000美元升級剎車片。
Like a McLaren and a Porsche Panamera had a child. Not a bad pedigree. This would be a 60% tariff if it somehow made it to the US?
這車簡直就是邁凱倫和保時捷帕拉梅拉的混血兒??！結(jié)合得相當(dāng)不錯嘛～不過要是這車真能進(jìn)美國市場，怕是要被征收60%的關(guān)稅吧？
I watch the live this morning. It was truly astonishing that xiaomi could provide such a price. 6:46 in Nurburgring. I think it’s good to bring higher levels of tech to a lower, more affordable price. I like their motto. Wish they could stick to it.
今天早上看了發(fā)布會直播。小米能給出這個價格真是讓人震驚。紐北6分46秒的成績，我覺得把高端技術(shù)帶到更親民的價格區(qū)間是件好事。我挺喜歡他們的理念，希望他們能一直堅持下去。
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The China EV market is so far ahead of us here. I watched a few live streams on xiaohongshu / rednote showing their EV capabilities and I was really amazed. Everything can be controlled from your phone / voice including simple stuff like locking the door, opening roof etc.
中國電動車市場簡直甩我們幾條街?。∥以谛〖t書上看了幾個直播，展示他們的電動車功能，真的被驚艷到了。所有東西都能用手機(jī)或語音控制，像鎖門、開天窗這種基本操作都不在話下。
I am a supporter of xiaomi. I strongly agree with Lei Jun's business philosophy. If anyone from overseas wants to get SU7(MAX/Ultra), they can contact me to discuss the feasibility.
我是小米的鐵粉，特別認(rèn)同雷軍的商業(yè)理念。如果有海外朋友想入手SU7（MAX/Ultra），可以找我聊聊，咱們一起研究下怎么搞到手。
Putting prices for cars sold in China in USD or € is such bullshit.
ID.3 costs 16k€ in China but 32k€ in Germany. Same is true for the Chinese OEM cars like BYD or NIO.
Everything is much cheaper there but if/once sold in the west it will never be this cheap
把中國汽車售價換算成美元或歐元簡直離譜。
ID.3（大眾推出的電動車）在中國賣1.6萬歐，在德國卻要3.2萬歐。比亞迪、蔚來這些中國品牌的車也一樣。
在中國啥都便宜，但一旦賣到西方，價格就再也下不來了。
Such outrage for a mere currency issue. It's doesn't take more than 5sec to convert the currency; and even if you ignore that it's not Chinese companies fault that EU countries have less competition and high tariffs. So it's pretty obvious the prices will be cheaper in China.
就為了個貨幣問題這么大動肝火？換算個貨幣連5秒都不用。再說了，就算你不換算，中國公司也沒做錯啥啊，明明是歐盟國家競爭少、關(guān)稅高。所以在中國價格便宜不是很正常的事嗎？